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31 December 2011 8 Comments

Heroic Quests Aren’t “Dailies”

This thought was prompted by a line in a post over at Going Commando, where Shintar points out that “daily quests … are designed to make you repeat them“.

Many SWTOR players are familiar with World of Warcraft, and describe SWTOR’s features in a context that other gamers will understand – and so heroic quests become “dailies”, because you can repeat them every day and that’s the shorthand that former WoW players will understand. Technically true, but – as Shintar says – I think comparing them to WoW dailies is misrepresenting them somewhat.

In WoW, daily quests really are designed to be a grind; you don’t get anything worthwhile until you’ve done quite a few days’ worth in succession. In almost every case you’re grinding for tokens or factional gains, and you’ll need to repeat the same dailies (often half a dozen quests or more) for a couple of weeks before seeing any reward.

In SWTOR, “dailies” are just quests that you can repeat for extra rewards if you choose. However, they provide meaningful rewards – commendations, moddable gear, random loot boxes, or credits – with every repeat, so you’re not roped into a tedious multi-week grind just to get any value out of one day’s worth of quests. Commendations are arguably an investment rather than an upfront reward, but there are so many ways to get commendations it’s far from a grind.

This might all change at endgame, of course – but as far as the levelling game goes, I find I much prefer SWTOR’s approach to repeatable content.

8 Responses to “Heroic Quests Aren’t “Dailies””

  1. Stop 31 December 2011 at 03:27 #

    At endgame, there are actual dailies. They reward Daily Commendations and everything!

    • Siha 31 December 2011 at 03:29 #

      Are they a hideous grind that feels compulsory? Or are they as fun as the rest of SWTOR’s questing? (Or both, since I suppose these two possibilities aren’t exclusive?)

    • Nicholas Bollaert 4 February 2012 at 06:45 #

      I agree completely. I believe that it is good to have these as repeatable… not because you need to grind them like dailies, but rather it allows a larger pool of players to group up!

      So you can avoid…

      “LFG Kill All the Wookiees H4”
      “Sorry did that one”
      “Did it yesterday”
      “Dude, I did that last week!”
      “Been there, done that.”

  2. Rohan 31 December 2011 at 04:23 #

    I would even state it as the Heroic quests are only expected to be done once. But you can do it multiple times if you really want.

    To me, the whole daily part just seems designed to let someone who’s helping out someone else benefit from the time spent, even if they’ve already done the quest.

    Like, I did a Heroic with 2 other players, and then they went to do a different one that I had completed the previous day. They just shared the quest and I helped them finish it and got a commendation. It’s the only time I’ve done a Heroic twice.

    • Iyeri 1 January 2012 at 02:35 #

      That’s exactly what I was zipping into the comments to say. It seems to me like the heroic area quests are repeatable more to encourage people to group for those quests and be social. Even if you’ve already done it, there’s still a reward, and a pretty nice one, for going in with your friends and helping them polish it off. I think it’s a nice feature, really.

      I’m not at endgame yet, so I can’t comment on the endgame dailies.

    • Shintar 2 January 2012 at 11:40 #

      That’s pretty much what I said in my post too. :) And thanks for the link, Siha!

    • Njessi 4 January 2012 at 01:22 #

      Yes. This. So much this. It’s hard enough to find a group sometimes. If someone helps you do a quest he’s already done, he should get SOMETHING for it. I almost never repeat the group quests unless I’m helping someone else.

  3. Wujon 27 January 2012 at 02:43 #

    The Belsavis dailies and the Ilum non-PVP dailies are kind of similar to WoW dailies (I’ve not done the Ilum PVP ones because just as I finished my Class Story to unlock them, the Patch 1.1 Ilum Debacle began). They give a LOT of cash though, each of them is over 7k Credits and you can knock out all the non-Heroic Belsavis ones, and the Heroic 2+ one, in a bit over an hour if you spacebar through the quest conversations — alternatively, with a bit of careful planning, you can also get a fairly huge amount of Companion Affection too. I think it’s over 150k Creds each day, so while I haven’t hit the point at which I have a million credits on hand yet, it will probably be this weekend :)

    Incidentally, this amount of cash definitely justifies my decision not to try and hoard cash for the level 40 speeder, it made very little difference to the levelling process and at 50, the 550k credits or so for training ranks 2 and 3 of speeder piloting, and buying a 110% speeder was a lot less painful.

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